Anaerobic Digesters. Town Council briefing.
By jimbarron | Thursday, January 05, 2012, 10:16
Steve Read MD of Somerset Waste Partnership cannot make the 10th.Jan. meeting, but will be available for the Feb meeting which is the 14th.Feb.
What he is saying reference to AD's is the economics are such that one plant will suffice for the whole of Somerset and the chosen site is Walpole near Bridgwater.This currently is a landfill site so there are no particular neighbour issues, and there are already gas engines on site which can convert the methane generated into electricity.
He goes on to say that SWP have grave reservations about Eric Pickles reported preference to take the sorting away from houses into an automated sort system. But I am sure all will be revealed on the 14th.
Earl I have already stated my ignorance regarding ADs and the like so please back off, from the political comments. OK. get on and do your own thing and good luck with it but steer clear of the tory stuff. I think all the contributors to this subject are on the same wavelength and that is good.
Jim Barron.
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From what you were saying, it sounds like the SWP man agrees with me Jim.
An Anaerobic Digester would be a fanastic addition to Glastonbury, and if it was put on that plot behind the Bailys building even better still, because then the sewage farm could be capped over as well & the gas (smell) captured from that too (and the feed-in-tariffs earned from the sewage Methane could pay for capping it over)... so up till there we're on the same page... but as soon as you introduced Pickles' ideas I'm afraid alarm bells rang. By the way I saw the original Press Release in September so 'The Times' were only about 4 months behind the times with this story.
Having an MBT in Glastonbury would be almost as bad as having an Incinerator & we wouldn't want either... and I'm afraid that is what Pickles is advocating & the £250 million is available only if we go back to weekly black bag bin collections & MBT... so I'm afraid I'm 100% against the idea if that's what you're suggesting.
Why on Earth would we want a weekly collection of black bags when our recycling is taken away weekly? If one recycles properly then there is absolutely no need for weekly black bag collection because all that's left, is a few mixed products & plastic... I myself only put a black bag out every four to six weeks (although of course there's only one of me).
Sorry Jim I'm not being negative about AD at all (in fact I'm all for it) but this idea of Pickles' is just Tory 'ideology' & a left-over from the General election which suggested that weekly black bag collections are some sort of god given right... and if I remember correctly it was another one of Murdoch's rags that banged on THAT particular drum in the lead-up to the General election.
All the best
Earl Bramley-Howard
By EarlBH at 09:09 on 07/01/12
ReportOh dear, not you as well. The political angle as you address it was me picking up the Jan 1st. edition of the Sunday Times, on the front page was an article by the paper's Whitehall Editor Marie Woolf headed ' Councils to bin the bins' Now I thought this is an item that is high on the agenda and believe it or not might be of interest to all and sundry, full bloody stop!!!
I am amazed at your knee jerk reaction, you are perplexed because you have been banging your drum for months. So what, you have not been banging it in my ear.
All that I have tried to do is because the article might just be of interest to Glastonbury People is to post it, so what is your gripe! Do you have sole rights on the subject of AD'S, if you have wonderful you are so very welcomed to it.
For goodness sake lighten up Earl you can keep your sole rights, the last thing I want to do is to make you unhappy and political.
I will sit tight and wait for the SWP man to come and talk to us on the 14th. Feb. then perhaps you can educate him. Dear me.
Jim Barron.
By jimbarron at 22:09 on 06/01/12
ReportJim. It's hard to keep politics out of it with Pickles threatening MBTs & incinerators all over the show. The last thing we need is an MBT in Glastonbury. As I said, that would be best placed at Walpole as the final 'sorting' process for black-bag rubbish to get any biowaste out of the waste stream before any residual is landfilled (without the incinerator element of MBT preferably.. and coupled with increased 'recycling' on the doorstep). The EU directives are mainly about biowaste going to landfill, due to the Methane which comes from it, which is a greenhouse gas 20 times more damaging than co2.
It's also a shame SWP don't seem to understand the first principles of energy from AD either. Having one big AD in Bridgwater is actually counter-productive & the 'economies of scale' don't apply here because the 'energy' one gains from it is 'lost' by transporting it long distances in big diesel burning lorries. By far a better system is to have several smaller ADs closer to where the waste is actually collected & then it only needs to be transported a short distance. From that point of view 10 x £1million ADs nearer the towns would have been better than 1 x £10million unit up at Walpole.
Forgive me for seeing the 'political' angle, but you started your article off with pure Tory rhetoric from Pickles, which might as well have been cut-n-pasted from the Conservative press release. This made it 'Political' from the very first paragraph (especially to a 'Green' like me who actually *does* know about ADs).
With other 'developments' that have recently been announced for Morlands, it looks to me like others have been playing politics and were being 'economical' with information requested of them... so to now have you come out & suggest an AD for Glastonbury, whilst being most welcome (so long as it isn't Pickles' MBT & incinerator units), is a little perplexing, especially when I've been banging this drum for nearly a year now & have made no secret about it.
By EarlBH at 07:46 on 06/01/12
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