They have cleared now, but I have photos of how bad it was! I will upload them to my Flickr late. But for anyone who is interested to find out more, I have another thread on this issue here, complete with a link to my photos of chemtrails over the past few weeks:
Con(densation) trails are the result of normal emissions of water vapor from piston engines and jet engines at high altitudes in which the water vapor condenses into a visible cloud. Contrails are formed when hot humid air from the engines mixes with the colder surrounding air. The rate at which contrails dissipate is entirely dependent on weather conditions and altitude. If the atmosphere is near saturation, the contrail may exist for some time. Conversely, if the atmosphere is dry, the contrail will dissipate quickly.
Sorry, but I don't buy into the Chemtrail conspiracy theory, it just sounds like a load of pointless scaremongering to me. Provide me with some hard evidence (like real scientific evaluation from controlled tests on our soil, water etc) and I'll happily agree with you.
Oh shut up SargentMuffin, don't patronise me, I know how contrails are formed and these are NOT contrails for god sake!!!!!! This IS happening end of ! All you have to do is look up at the sky EVERY single day when there is some blue and you will see white trails at obviously much lower altitudes (28,000ft - 5 miles up!) then they are supposed to form at and every one persisting!!! It is rare for contrails to persist, only in very cold and humid conditions do they persist! Just look at my photos and you will see, it's so obvious!!!
I am going to get a water sample done very soon too!
Are you FB?? There are chemtrail groups on there with thousands of members and even an American group who are setting up a law suit!
Open your eyes and mind!! Do your research, this is NOT all scaremongering and conspiracy!!! I suppose you, Martin and Victor also believe that man walked on the moon in 1969 and that the twin towers were brought down by terrorists (well actually they were, the US government!!) in two planes ha, ha!!!.
And have you not noticed how the sky looks really weird when it's cloudy, like all rippling and fake looking?? Or it completely white out and you can see the trails that make it like that, or the grids that form and we're not even under any flight paths here!!
And what about the weather! No matter what anyone says, we should not be having the majority of June being rainy and hardly seeing any sun! We should not have had almost 30 degrees in March and last October was in the late 20s too.
They, through this spraying, are cloud seeding to make rain and changing the atmosphere and jet stream through HAARP........Come on think about it, this isn't in the slightest, normal weather patterns we are seeing!!!
Look SargentMuffin, I'm sorry I told you to shut up! But I get the 'how contrails are formed' all the time and I get so fed up with it, because it's just not so with these trails.
Contrails only form at a minimum of 28,000ft, which is 5.2 miles up and the majority of these trails are a lot lower than that.
Also, do you not know that around this area is military air space only? If we had lots of commercial planes flying every which way around here (which I have recorded), it would be dangerous, because of all the helicopters etc!
Ok. This photo was taken along Tor View Avenue here in Glastonbury:
Have you ever seen this before? If not and it is normal air traffic, why do we not see this pattern all the time in this exact area? Do you notice how low the trails are and it was a hot day!!
This was looking out the back of my place (over the Abbey grounds). Again, would you expect commercial planes to fly like this over that area and if so, why don't I see this pattern every day? I have only seen it once like this!!
Again, this unusual formation was out the back of mine (over abbey grounds) and it was a total shock when we saw this!! It looked like the Red Arrows have just flown over and we didn't hear a thing, despite being in our living room at the time!!
Taken through my kitchen window:
Also, you will notice, these trails are not 5 miles up in the sky and again, it was very warm day, so they should not have lingered and spread like they did!!
These were very low (must have been about 10,000ft max) and just above our block of flats:
So many planes crossing, for an area where there are lots of helicopters flying regularly! This would be very dangerous, not to mention where are all these planes going??
Storm's Mun, please can you submit a photograph taken from Glastonbury that shows an aircraft that is supposedly distributing chemtrails/chemicals - none appear in your photos (unless I've missed one). We are on the flight path to Bristol airport and the only trails I see occuring are from passenger jets (as you can see with a decent pair of binoculars). From what you say I'd assume the perpetrators of chemtrails (rather than contrails) will be at a much lower height and easier to spot.
Passenger jets at 5 miles high aren't going to bother helicopters, but surely if the aircraft forming at a much lower level (as you say) these would be less likely to be operational as they could. Or is it the helicopters that form chemtrails, or seagulls or pigeons or hot air balloons? Or maybe they are just formed from the hot air produced by conspiracy theorists.
"I suppose you, Martin and Victor also believe that man walked on the moon in 1969"
Unlike some local paranos quite obviously off their medication, I was actually part of the team that helped put men on the moon in 1969. And directed the radio dishes to the right part of the sky to be able to pick up their transmissions and listen to them. (On secondment to from the University of Madagascar to Bendix Field Corporation, contracted by NASA to run the Imerintsiatosika Satellite Tracking Station.) So, where you have only second-hand experience (culled uncritically from the internet, which you obviously regard as providng you with irrefutably proven truths), I have *direct*, practical, human, experience.
What were you (or your parents) doing in 1969 ? Lying around in a field taking drugs ?
Ok, Martin, you 'say' you were part of the NASA programme to put man on the moon - so where is YOUR proof??? If you do have any, I'd love to see it!! After all, you could have looked up these details you are stating.
Victor, if I am photographing the planes leaving the trails, this is obviously in the sky, so there is no recognisable ground level shots included too. How do you think these trails appeared though, out of thin air?? And, considering I live where these photos are taken, I think I would know if they were commercial jets, as they would be almost flying past my window!!!!!
Also, since when do commercial planes fly in patterns like in the photos I have taken?? Are you really telling me that commercial planes would fly like this, right past my place, this low, without me hearing a thing??!!! You must be deluded!!
Huh StormsMum? I don't understand you. I can see these things perfectly well with my own eyes thank you. What I don't see is the plane (or device) that is allegedly spewing the stuff into the atmosphere. Perhaps the planes are invisible stealth aircraft is that what you are suggesting? You say you would know if they were being caused by passenger jets, as these would fly past your window. So why therefore can we not see the perpetrators of the contrails. It's a simple query (for a layman like me).
And it would be polite if you declined to call anyone who disagrees with your opinion deluded. I'm open to your ideas but alas like most people with strong opinions on chemtrails you just resort to abusing those who disagree. It doen't help your cause I'm afraid.
No, I am not a troll, if I was a troll, do you think I would have put a link to my own personal Flickr account on here?? I was just merely trying to wake people up to this. But I can see it is not working and I am wasting my time. To be honest, I don't know why I even care. I don't know you people and there are plenty of others who are awake and realise what is going on above their heads.
There's none so blind, as those who cannot see! In the meantime, our Governments will go on poisoning us and changing our weather without our consent!!
OK -- you're talking rubbish.
Remember -- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle believed in fairies; and went on record to say so.
(It was later admitted that the fairies he believed in were a hoax perpetrated by two schoolgirls.)
Your ardent desire to believe in your delusional fantasies seems to have robbed you of all critical faculty. I suggest taking up photographing squirrels instead.
(There's one in my garden watching me now. But I'm cleverer than them. They won't get me.)
"One person sees an invisible man, and they're a nutter.
Ten men see him, and it's a cult.
Ten thousand see him, and it's a respected world-wide religion."
Martin, you are a complete fool......Go back to watching your telly and keep getting brain washed, that's all you deserve!!
Wells_Jacqui, this chemtrail debate is not generating so much momentum NOW, it has been for years, it's just that more people are becoming aware now. Plus, there have been enough clear days over the last couple of months to record plenty of trails (my photographs prove that!!) , despite the ****** mostly cloudy weather......Cloud seeding by the way! ;) It is not hysteria, just awakening, but it is apparent that most of the population is still asleep! Martin Wheeler is definitely testimony to that!!!
Please sign and share this petition if you care about the health of the planet and the health of yourself and loved ones!! There are only 200 signatures on this petition....200 out of the whole world!!! :( If you read some of the comments of the small amount of people who have signed this hugely important petition, you will see that people and nature are really getting affected (some areas of the world are worse than others) by all this spraying!!
Come on people, we only have one planet!!!!
[darkly] Ah, but you're forgetting the Town WiFi, and what it's doing to your health.
It is a *proven fact* (for certan people in town) that it is the Glastonbury branch of the global HAARP conspiracy run by the New World Order elites to make the sun shine all the time.
[And that despite the fact it was turned off months ago. And that the local loonies with their unproven rants and accusations cost the town 160 grand.]